Re: Google's site ranking algorithm

from Hugo Haas <[email protected]>, Tue, 31 Oct 2000 23:46:57 -0500

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As a follow-up on this, GeekPress had an interesting story[1] about how to
cheat with Google's ranking linke from Slashdot.

We should publish something about the W3C Google scam. :-)

1. http://www.geekpress.com/stories/google.shtml

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Re: Google's site ranking algorithm

from Gerald Oskoboiny <[email protected]>, Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:03:47 -0500

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On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 11:46:57PM -0500, Hugo Haas wrote:
> As a follow-up on this, GeekPress had an interesting story[1]
> about how to cheat with Google's ranking linke from Slashdot.

I would love to see search engines start putting sites
like this on permanent blacklists, and then publicizing and
sharing their blacklists with other search engine vendors.
(a la RBL for email spam, http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/ )

It would probably take a fair bit of human effort to research
and verify which sites are doing this though.

> We should publish something about the W3C Google scam. :-)

That's not a scam, just a nice side effect of the way their
ranking algorithm works. :)

> 1. http://www.geekpress.com/stories/google.shtml

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Re: Google's site ranking algorithm

from Hugo Haas <[email protected]>, Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:20:19 -0500

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On Wed, Nov 01, 2000, Gerald Oskoboiny wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 11:46:57PM -0500, Hugo Haas wrote:
> > As a follow-up on this, GeekPress had an interesting story[1]
> > about how to cheat with Google's ranking linke from Slashdot.
>
> I would love to see search engines start putting sites
> like this on permanent blacklists, and then publicizing and
> sharing their blacklists with other search engine vendors.
> (a la RBL for email spam, http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/ )
>
> It would probably take a fair bit of human effort to research
> and verify which sites are doing this though.
>
> > We should publish something about the W3C Google scam. :-)
>
> That's not a scam, just a nice side effect of the way their
> ranking algorithm works. :)
>
> > 1. http://www.geekpress.com/stories/google.shtml
>
> --
> Gerald Oskoboiny <[email protected]>
> http://impressive.net/people/gerald/

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Oops (was Re: Google's site ranking algorithm)

from Hugo Haas <[email protected]>, Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:22:54 -0500

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This is what happens when you start writing something, then you change
your mind, try to cancel your mail and press 'y' without reading the
question... Sorry.

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Re: Google's site ranking algorithm

from "Joseph M. Reagle Jr." <[email protected]>, Wed, 01 Nov 2000 08:48:59 -0500

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At 23:46 10/31/2000 -0500, Hugo Haas wrote:
>As a follow-up on this, GeekPress had an interesting story[1] about how to
>cheat with Google's ranking linke from Slashdot.
>
>We should publish something about the W3C Google scam. :-)

I'm non-plussed with Diana's taste in women (Liv Tyler and Heather Lockleer,
it's all about Brittany out there! <grin>), and her concern with this
problem. I agree with Google, I've long recognized one could do this (and I
would actually use a couple of domains as the easiest way to address this by
google is to deprecate the value of links to their own domain (for which W3C
must be the most dense site in the world)).

If the algorithms work well for 99.9% of the queries, I doubt I'd be
inclined to change it for this <.01% screw case unless it improved all
searches.
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