Blogger

from Hugo Haas <[email protected]>, Sun, 27 Aug 2000 22:04:28 -0400

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I have discovered today that a lot of people are using Blogger[1] to
take random notes about everything. It seems to be an easy way to write
a journal.

It produces dated entries on people's site that you can navigate easily
(see [2] for example), and it's free.

The part that I don't understand is how this company makes money: the
only thing they ask from their users is a link back to [1]. On the other
hand, I got the impression that every time you commit a change, some
information goes to their site (at least the fact that you updated your
page since they have a list of recently modified "blogs"[3]. Well, I'm
not sure it's really valuable information anyway, and it seems that
their privacy policy states that this information will remain
confidential.

Does anybody have some experience with such tools?

What is interesting is that all those people seem read each other's
weblogs, are organized into webrings, etc. It seems to be trendy to have
a diary: I would almost be interested in having one, but I'm pretty sure
I would stop updating it after a few days...

1. http://www.blogger.com/
2. http://www.notsosoft.com/blog/index.html
3. http://www.blogger.com/about.pyra

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Re: Blogger

from Joseph Reagle <[email protected]>, Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:28:02 -0400

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At 22:04 8/27/2000 -0400, Hugo Haas wrote:
>The part that I don't understand is how this company makes money: the
>only thing they ask from their users is a link back to [1].

I'm not sure about that either, I always assumed banners. [1]

>Does anybody have some experience with such tools?

They are very handy/easy. Some are quite cool and permit others to comment
on your entry: the first widely deployed and usable Web annotation I've seen.

>What is interesting is that all those people seem read each other's
>weblogs

Such an odd little ego stroke. [2]

>, are organized into webrings, etc. It seems to be trendy to have
>a diary:

Very trendy. [3]

[1] http://www.salon.com/tech/col/rose/1999/05/28/weblogs/index.html
[2] http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=003b8P
[3] http://goatee.net/2000/07#_21fr
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Re: Blogger

from Hugo Haas <[email protected]>, Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:59:30 -0400

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On Mon, Aug 28, 2000, Joseph Reagle wrote:
> >, are organized into webrings, etc. It seems to be trendy to have
> >a diary:
>
> Very trendy. [3]

I actually found another type of Web logger that people from W3C seem to
like (at least Dan Connolly, Daniel Veillard and Gerald): Advogato[1].

Apparently, in this one, you seem to upload your comments to the server,
which that you can potentially lose them if the owner of Advogato
suddenly decides to shut the service down. Plus I wouldn't be
comfortable in using a tool which generates invalid HTML[2]. :-)

It doesn't seem very hard to me to do something like that actually. The
data could be stored in XML, a small script would add entries in XML
format and an XSL stylesheet would generate the output.

1. http://www.advogato.org/
2. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.advogato.org/person/DV/

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Re: Blogger

from Gerald Oskoboiny <[email protected]>, Tue, 29 Aug 2000 02:00:23 -0400

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On Sun, Aug 27, 2000 at 10:04:28PM -0400, Hugo Haas wrote:
> I have discovered today that a lot of people are using Blogger[1] to
> take random notes about everything. It seems to be an easy way to write
> a journal.

Not as easy as a mailing list with an online archive. :)

(and rfc822-formatted data will be useful for a long time, and
has lots of other tools that work well with it, etc.)

A list-with-archive isn't quite as good for small, random
comments and observations, I guess. (unless you have a very
tolerant audience)

> It produces dated entries on people's site that you can navigate easily
> (see [2] for example), and it's free.

I want to add an RSS-formatted view to HURL Real Soon Now, so
fogo would be available as an RSS feed too.

Some of my favorite weblogs are:

http://www.scripting.com/
http://winerlog.editthispage.com/ (parody of the above)
http://joel.editthispage.com/

and when I remember, Joseph's:

http://goatee.net/

Unfortunately, I hardly ever remember to go there, so I'd much
rather have an email feed of that one. (same goes for a lot of
content that I want to check periodically on the web.)

> 1. http://www.blogger.com/
> 2. http://www.notsosoft.com/blog/index.html

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